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"I'm a Firefighter" - The Double Standard
Kristen Winters
We all know being a firefighter has its social perks, especially for guys. I go out with the guys from work often and watch certain phenomenons take place.
For example, my fellow brothers can walk up to a table full of girls, with a wingman in place of course (as I learned all about the importance of wingmen when I began spending time with them) and say something achingly simple.
“I am a fireman.”
And it works!
These tables full of girls giggle, twirl their hair, whisper among themselves, and fall for it hook-line-and-sinker.
Now I am not saying the thought of a man in uniform isn’t alluring, but come on…how do you know? He could be lying! But needless to say, the guys usually have a dance partner for the rest of the night.
What would happen if I tried this? Do I get the same benefit? I decided to put this to the test.
A friend of mine became my wingwoman, because every rock star needs a wingwoman, and we sauntered over to a table full of very attractive guys. Now I have to add that I was out with some of my brothers, and they were watching with rapt interest.
I felt confident. I had gained some definition in my arms due to the academy. I had lost 25 pounds. I was wearing a shirt that complimented me perfectly. I was wearing 4-inch heels. I was golden.

bghsfireman
14 days ago
2 comments
AMEN!!! I love female firefighters, most of whom can do the job as good as or better than men! If a female came up to me and said "I am a Firefighter", well...you know where i'm going with this...;)
jecrawford3
17 days ago
4 comments
I would have to say a woman that walks up to me and says that definnitly has some courage, I will admitt to doing the same thing with the wingman, u've got guts girl, and that would be hot if a chick did that
firemedic78
18 days ago
8 comments
Shortman64-I am going to go with jealous and intimidated! ;)
tony088
18 days ago
6 comments
I think women in uniform are always sexy!
michelle36
19 days ago
1706 comments
When I met my husband, I was aware that he had worked many years in the fire service but I never looked at him as many women perceive firefighters. My co-workers and friends were like "He's a firefighter" as if there was some aura of godliness because he was. A person's title and status seem to be so important to others without them looking into the "real picture." Unfortunately, the guys in fire service will always fall under the same norm as they have for years. However, I have the greatest guy and it's not just because he is a firefighter.
thurgian
20 days ago
28 comments
Many years ago, I used to a member of the "nightlife" crowd; and I never used the "I am a firefighter" line. I have never been interested in any person who thinks that how I dress, what I drive, or where I work is important ...
One night there was a fire next door to one of my favorite hangouts. Since it was going to be an "all-nighter", a stepped next door to obtain permission for the personnel to use the establisments rest rooms - the owner was happy to oblige. On the way out the door, several women (who usually ignored that I existed) were suddenly interested because I was in my turnout gear.
I am no longer a member of the "nightlife" crew; and did eventually meet a wonderful partner - without resorting to "I am a firefighter". The authors story does nothing more than show that men and women are equally shallow - some women are impressed by "hot men in uniforms"; and some men are put off by "women with a manlier job". Stay away from both types, and find someone that likes you for who you are - not for what you do.
firemedic78
20 days ago
8 comments
Definitely preaching to the choir...it was an experiment. I wanted to see what would happen if I tried to pull the same lines. No, those guys weren't worth my time. And no, I am never going to try to be someone I am not! I love the person I am, and will not change for someone who does not think I am not worth his time ;)
firefly9311
20 days ago
320 comments
Tshirt is right, it's a man's technique. Not that it couldn't be bigender in the future, just that it's still recognized as something guys do (especially when they've got nothing else to offer), so when a woman does it, the guys get confused.
Also, traditionally, girls are known to go for the "hot fireman;" guys aren't. (Personally, I have my own opinions about those kinds of girls, but I'll keep that to myself for now...) The kind of guys you encountered are probably the kind who only go for the kind of girls who typically go for the "hot fireman." (And I have my opinions about those kinds of guys, too...) If you ask me, those kinds of people are so completely not worth your time. They're not interested in who you really are as a person - they're interested in how "hot" you are, and how well they can show you off to their friends. The moment you lose your "hotness" or "trophy" appeal, they drop you like...well, like a hot ember. And move on to the next available and willing booty.
I don't see your experiment as being a failure, though. I think it was perfectly successful. It demonstrated what happens when a female attempts to use a male standard. But don't give up hope on equity. First of all, there ARE guys out there that think a female firefighter is "hot." Secondly, you shouldn't have to try to win someone over by telling them you're a firefighter, or a doctor, or an environmental engineer (the current job title for "garbage man"). The people you want to be with - and anyone you want to date - should want to be with you for who you are as a person. And finally, Tshirt is right about this, too: you're a woman, so act like a woman. There is NOTHING wrong with being a woman, and it bugs me when woman try so hard to be like men in the hopes that men will treat them as more of an equal. Be YOURSELF. Do your job, and be who you are. I worked with a woman who was HOOOOOOOOOT to look at, a helluva firefighter and athlete, and was so incredibly bro-boy in personality (meaning very tomboyish). She was just fine the way she was. I've also worked with a woman (as a lifeguard) who fit into the stereotype of females that I typically can't stand - valley-girl bimbo with the high-pitched squeaky voice who got drunk every weekend with her sorority sisters and was extremely focused on how "hot" and "cute" she was for all the guys - but she turned out to be one of the best lifeguards we had at our facility, an excellent swim instructor, quite a competent department leader, and a very sweet person and good friend. She was herself, and she didn't worry about trying to act like a guy so that the guys would accept her.
It does sound, though, as though you know who you are, and you're strong and confident in who you are, so I may be preaching to the choir here.
Tshirt
20 days ago
2 comments
The problem is, you are not a man. You used a man's technique to try to attract....men. No wonder they were confused and amused. It's not a double standard because it is not a standard technique for women If other women used that "line", that would be one thing, but they don't so it seemed pretty weird to those guys. You are a woman so act like a woman. Besides, using that line is a fall back plan when they guy has nothing else to offer or no confidence. I know. Been there done that. The other thing is, don't give up with just one try. NO line works every time.
A "girl" in my department just said "Asking "Have you ever danced with a Figherfighter?" works well for her....
sportzchick
20 days ago
2 comments
Great work on toning the arms and dropping 25 pounds! That sucks you can't have a job you love and tell people about it because it might hurt their fragile egos. I guess you could tell them you are a pole dancer and not let him know it is a firefighter pole or pike pole until you have had him on the dance floor for a few songs. :) Rock on sister fire fighter.
pinkpanther232
20 days ago
2 comments
wow. Well you know what I say to that. Forget them. I personally think any woman in a uniform is sexy in my book. Especially firewomen ;) hit me up if ya want a real man who'll have ya even if you are a firefighter thebigredsnowman22@yahoo.com