I think what I meant by what I typed was he patient making a permanent end to a temorary situation. Most patients that decide to commit suicide are more emotional than terminal problems and could be handled in a less than life taking manner. Sorry it I was confussing. I never meant any disrespect to the police, FF or EMS. I would not do that here or anywhere, I promise. That being said, I agree with you that she pobably could have been TALKED into cooperation without the tazer. I hope that you will forgive me for any confussion I may have caused.